Slamlander ([info]slamlander) wrote,
@ 2007-02-01 08:39:00
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Entry tags:civil rights, polyticks, us

This is indeed a sad day for Americans
I hope that this guy doesn't go to jail for simply doing his legal job. Yes, Turner should have thought twice about it but then Boston stupidly over-reacted, as well. Even charging this guy, let alone sentencing him, would be a gross miscarriage of justice. He was just doing his job by placing the harmless devices where he was told.

On the legal front, the intent was not to perpetrate a hoax and the box wasn't a hoax device. In short, the man is innocent, which even the most superficial analysis would reveal. If either the service technician or Turner Broadcasting face prosecutable action over this then that makes the USA even crazier than the UK.

It definitely makes me not want to go back to the States. Now, are the Dems going to dismantle DHS? I don't think so. It serves their interests too well and they can blame its creation on the Reps. DHS is still the German SS in drag though.


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They're trying the both of them for felony charges,
[info]iptv_tech
2007-02-01 08:07 am UTC (link)
I hope they fail to stick.

Even if they don't serve jail time, a felony charge revokes basic rights like the ability to vote, the ability to own a firearm.. pretty much everything the constitution gaarentees us.

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Re: You know, if they were paid to do it...
[info]gazarsgo
2007-02-01 03:58 pm UTC (link)
I expect a summary dismissal to be honest. Anything less is a gross injustice.

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You know, if they were paid to do it...
[info]iptv_tech
2007-02-01 08:31 am UTC (link)
then CC (and inturn, Turner) should be charged as accomplices.

Can you send an entire corporation to jail? Maybe it's easier to just goto the HQ, throw chains and locks around the doors, board up the windows, and sit a rent-a-cop outside.

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[info]tbuitenh
2007-02-01 10:30 am UTC (link)
In the movies, a bomb beeps and ticks and blinks and whatnot so the hero can find it, and because it looks cool. In the real world, a bomb is not supposed to be found, and so it will look like something that is supposed to be there, or at least look unsuspicious. Sheesh!

these things also aren't bombs

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[info]desertrat66
2007-02-01 03:07 pm UTC (link)
Quite a lot of my friends and I were upset when Bush announced the Department of Homeland Security in his post 9-11 Speech. It sounded ominous and we haven't been disappointed. The problems prior to the attack was too much bureaucracy, adding more and then giving it that name seemed senseless.

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[info]wisedonkey
2007-02-01 03:54 pm UTC (link)
The ones responsible for the hoax and mass panic aren't those who posted the ads nor Cartoon Network. The mass panic of a bomb scare came from the news media. They heard "suspicious device" and turned it into

OMFG TEH TERRORISTS ARE BOMBING BOSTON

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[info]slamlander
2007-02-01 04:18 pm UTC (link)
Yep, that's pretty much how I define Pulitzerism ;)

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The stupidity...it burns.
[info]willow_dragon
2007-02-01 05:06 pm UTC (link)
I found this when reading about this.

basically...A well known local artist/protestor named Subculture Joe was upset that the city had decided to open up a previously closed street that was used a a public square downtown. To he built a giant metal heart sculpture, with a mechanized knife stabbing through it repeatedly. He loaded it into his beat-up, graffiti covered pickup & parked the thing in the middle of the street, slashed the tires and walked away. Everything was basically fine-- Police gave him a parking ticket, but otherwise everybody seemed to be getting the joke-- until someone noticed that one tiny graffiti on the bumper, out of the hundred or so bits of random graffiti covering the car said "Timberlake Carpentry Rules (The Bomb!)". On the strength of that tiny bit of graffiti, the police shut down nine square blocks in the heart of the downtown shopping district for four and a half hours right at mid-day. They declared the artist a terrorist. The artist was so terrified that he turned himself in to a reporter, rather then the police since he wanted a journalist with him when the police finally turned up. He was originally tried as a terrorist with the DA calling for the death penalty, but he eventually plea bargained it down to a misdemeanor, Criminal Trespass, 30 days in jail plus court costs (~$300).

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Re: The stupidity...it burns.
[info]slamlander
2007-02-01 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Indeed it does. Welcome to USA, the Police State. Don't forget that this is all in the name of freedom! :(

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Re: The stupidity...it burns.
[info]willow_dragon
2007-02-01 05:32 pm UTC (link)
All in the name of freedom... and God?

I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said:

You can't rule a civilized nation without God or the Bible.

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Re: The stupidity...it burns.
[info]ozanbaba
2007-02-03 11:02 pm UTC (link)
"You can't rule a civilized nation without God or the Bible."
we are doing it. laic republic!

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Groan....
[info]saminz
2007-02-01 05:45 pm UTC (link)
I think they should go to jail for naming their new product "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" instead ;-).
Not really, of course. But I would probably prefer to go if that meant I wouldn't have to watch it!

A very, very ridiculous story indeed. I don't think it will do much for the image of DHS, either :-D. Nice.

If they really go to jail - no, I don't even want to think about that. Not even the US can be *that* moronic, can they...?!

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Re: Groan....
[info]nolawitch
2007-02-02 02:13 am UTC (link)
No. Aqua Teen Hunger Force is GREAT. It's the uncool fuckwits in Boston who didn't recognize something hip until it bit them on the collective ass. I'm with the Mooninite and giving them the finger for idiocy.

This country is so full of douchebags it's not funny.

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Re: Groan....
[info]saminz
2007-02-02 08:12 pm UTC (link)
Oh? Well, if you say so, I'll give it the benefit of doubt, at least. Wonder how they'll translate that, if it ever turns up here ;-).

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[info]shamus9999
2007-02-02 01:20 am UTC (link)
Light Bright toys are now WMDs?

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[info]pecosdave
2007-02-03 02:27 am UTC (link)
Looking at this with a purely neutral justice must be served, lets get real here attitude the legitimate possibilities are:

1. No harm no foul

2. Grafitti/vandalism - this is pushing it, they are magnetic so they are easily removed, no permanent harm is done - more of an annoyance than anything because of how high up they stuck them. A ladder or pole would be needed to get them down.

3. Public Nuisance - this may legitimate, though really I think the person in charge of declaring these things bombs deserves this charge more than the person sticking them up.

Really I can't think of anything else, this has been blown way out of proportion. Turner owe's them a bonus check due to the publicity this has generated, but if they're found guilty of a crime they may lose it all because in the U.S. you are not allowed to profit from crime. This extends to writing a book about your crimes later.

Honestly, I think it's great. Traditional forms of advertising have grown old, annoying, and ignored. When someone does something genuinely different, I like it. Of course the problem is if it works we'll see full motion penis going from flacid to errect LED signs in about three months flashing a URL underneath.

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